tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post7529703886351418541..comments2024-03-21T02:32:03.663-04:00Comments on Marvel Mysteries and Comics Minutiae: S. Ditko 1927-2018: An Independent MindNick Caputohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05096100224095280865noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-69059635773116911982020-11-22T20:40:58.881-05:002020-11-22T20:40:58.881-05:00Anonymous,
I did not write anywhere that I recall...Anonymous,<br /><br />I did not write anywhere that I recall that Ditko stated being an artist automatically made him a creator. In the instance of a full script Ditko (as all artists) created the art and storytelling in a visual medium. I agree that Ditko was quite clear in his definitions but I don't see where I distorted that in this piece. Nick Caputohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096100224095280865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-47950231755529730592020-11-03T16:51:50.009-05:002020-11-03T16:51:50.009-05:00Seditionist. Ditko did not say being a artist make...Seditionist. Ditko did not say being a artist makes you automatically a creator of anything. Nick Caputo,you are incorrect here. Ditko has said that he was plotting the book with Stan from the very first story in Amazing Fantasy 15. The fact he was involved with the writing and coming up with concepts like the web shooter is why he says he is co creator of Spider-Man and not Captain Atom whose entire concept and script came from Joe Gill. He was very consistent in his beliefs. This distortion is something others have spread. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-7215801048043186252020-10-02T06:12:01.219-04:002020-10-02T06:12:01.219-04:00I really love reading classic comics. Thank you fo...I really love reading classic comics. Thank you for sharing this.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.onehourdevicerepair.com/iphone-repair-bellevue-wa/" rel="nofollow">Big discounts Bellevue iPhone Repair</a>One Hour Device Repairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11243496918104724171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-13350060612688355052019-08-20T19:05:17.695-04:002019-08-20T19:05:17.695-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-13877400339647442412018-10-29T19:42:07.714-04:002018-10-29T19:42:07.714-04:00Seditionist,
Ditko has never claimed creator cre...Seditionist,<br /> <br />Ditko has never claimed creator credit on Spider-Man. He has always called it a co-creation with Lee. In the instance of Captain Atom he worked from a complete script written by Gill. He did design the costume but was not involved in the story or plots. Nick Caputohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096100224095280865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-50096129465434144512018-10-14T06:05:27.936-04:002018-10-14T06:05:27.936-04:00Full disclosure: For reasons too detailed to go in...Full disclosure: For reasons too detailed to go into here, I am 1,000% convinced that Objectivism is complete BS. More: It, or the equivalent belief set, has done true, deep harm to society. So, you know, feh to Objectivism and Objectivists.<br />Which brings me to the Captain Atom pin up. It raises a <i>huge</i> question: How is Joe Gill the creator of the character when Ditko couldn't be the <i>co-</i>creator of Spider-Man because only the artist could be the creator and the only one at that? A writer, per Ditto, couldn't be the creator. So how did Gill, in Ditko's mind do it?The Seditionisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06054750794702860380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-75350577569954896022018-10-14T06:04:36.891-04:002018-10-14T06:04:36.891-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.The Seditionisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06054750794702860380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-91204420060291565642018-07-22T10:51:57.594-04:002018-07-22T10:51:57.594-04:00Great content.... keep going
If you want to know a...Great content.... keep going<br />If you want to know about MCU then click here <a href="www.marvelstruefan.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"><br />Marvels True Fan </a> Marvelstruefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07444660648933450346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-16519145399810728092018-07-17T19:42:20.868-04:002018-07-17T19:42:20.868-04:00Thank you, Jim. Thank you, Jim. Nick Caputohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096100224095280865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-89533118665688337152018-07-15T08:22:23.540-04:002018-07-15T08:22:23.540-04:00Well doneWell doneJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00352163584546054887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-72367930442834522092018-07-09T20:28:04.970-04:002018-07-09T20:28:04.970-04:00I think Ditko's work with Robin Snyder had mor...I think Ditko's work with Robin Snyder had more in common with the indy comics scene than with mainstream comics. The ability to produce with pen and paper, no frills, gave their publications a very charming feel. Receiving them via US mail also hearkened back to a earlier time. Nick Caputohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096100224095280865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-90885940211530198902018-07-09T17:35:34.804-04:002018-07-09T17:35:34.804-04:00Regardless of what I thought of the meaning of Dit...Regardless of what I thought of the meaning of Ditko's later work, the artwork was always great. I can look at those "Packages" from Ditko/Snyder with the same awe that I look at an early Spider-Man. True one is more commercial than the other, but there is no falling off of artistic quality. It is the nature of the artist to continue to follow his or her muse to the bitter end regardless of weather that leads to continued commercial success or not. Sometimes the artist has to deal with the betrayal of the physical, like Kirby or Charles Schultz did in his later years, but the muse shines through anyway. And to say that the later stuff is not "as good" as the early stuff is missing the point. <br />Whoswhozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04361925035160448156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-1034747918240034742018-07-09T08:07:01.629-04:002018-07-09T08:07:01.629-04:00Steve Ditko was that rarest of human beings...a tr...Steve Ditko was that rarest of human beings...a true individual. His art, like his persona, was uniquely his own.<br />There was much in his philosophy with which I strongly disagreed, and thus much of his later work which I didn't care for. But I always respected his willingness, his drive, his passion for speaking his mind, for sharing his perspective with those who would listen.<br />In a culture in which superlatives are so often overused, I am not hesitant to say that Steve Ditko was, in many ways, the embodiment of greatness.<br />We are so fortunate that walked among us.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00263957025573611416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-21363688982141909382018-07-09T05:44:15.520-04:002018-07-09T05:44:15.520-04:00I think that, while it may be true to say that Sta...I think that, while it may be true to say that Stan (and Marvel) certainly benefitted from having Jack and Steve, it's also fair to say that without Stan, both Jack and Steve (and Marvel) wouldn't have enjoyed the same degree of success and renown. The magic only seemed to happen to the same degree when they 'collaborated', so without Stan (whatever you think his contribution was or wasn't), Marvel probably wouldn't have been Marvel. Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-87569495207608843792018-07-09T00:22:22.232-04:002018-07-09T00:22:22.232-04:00RIP Steve Ditko. In an era where everyone wants t...RIP Steve Ditko. In an era where everyone wants to be the "next big thing" and where entitlement is rampant among many stratas of society, it was nice that there was an comic artist who was humble & not a entitled, obnoxious a-hole like some artists.<br /><br />I.e., I always found it obnoxious that Stan Lee had his name plastered all over Marvel comics that he had absolutely nothing to do with. Lee took a lot more credit than he should have for Marvel characters. He never drew comics, and if it hadn't been for artists like Ditko & Kirby, Stan & Marvel comics would have been NOTHING.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-38155823194897695472018-07-08T20:23:58.468-04:002018-07-08T20:23:58.468-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Michael Hillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-58977840118030892162018-07-08T19:48:37.500-04:002018-07-08T19:48:37.500-04:00No worries, Kid. Discussion is welcome here, but I...No worries, Kid. Discussion is welcome here, but I will delete posts from people who choose to attack and curse me, you (and others) out, putting us in an "anti-Ditko" camp. I'll not respect those words by replying. Nick Caputohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096100224095280865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-88127206135181477232018-07-08T19:19:11.498-04:002018-07-08T19:19:11.498-04:00Don't worry, Nick - I wasn't including you...Don't worry, Nick - I wasn't including you in the ranks of those who deify their favourite comicbook artists; I know you could never be accused of that. However, there are those who do, and it was them I had in mind when I composed my previous comment. I fear that with Steve's death, we're going to be seeing some more anti-Stan sentiment doing the rounds. Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-23532211655227375822018-07-08T19:13:43.117-04:002018-07-08T19:13:43.117-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Michael Hillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-69297227047139164512018-07-08T15:08:27.455-04:002018-07-08T15:08:27.455-04:00Emmanuel, Richard and Kid: Thanks for the kind wor...Emmanuel, Richard and Kid: Thanks for the kind words and observations. The Safest Place was one of his best solo efforts in terms of story, art and concept. I also agree that Ditko has too often been pigeonholed, going from Spider-Man/Dr. Strange to his objectivist/political tracts (another error, since he didn't talk politics but philosophy). His long career was diverse, and I've tried to feature some of that forgotten work on this blog from time to time. <br /><br />Ditko clearly loved the comic book medium, telling pictures with words and pictures, and stayed in it till the end. He was also a fan who knew the history of comics and enjoyed the work of many artists. Unlike Kid I've been fascinated by much of his independent work. I've not found everything he has produced to my liking, but this blog has always been on a positive level, writing about stuff I enjoy and hopefully expressing why I do well enough that someone can at least understand - if not agree with - my assessment. Personal attacks, even knocking down work I'm unhappy with, has never been my goal or interest (although critical discussion/analysis does come into play from time to time). So when I write about Ditko, Kirby, Don Heck, Bill Everett. Stan Lee, Herb Trimpe, Marie Severin, Chester Gould or any other creators works I'll always tend to the positive. Nick Caputohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096100224095280865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-52801267281286238952018-07-08T14:13:55.886-04:002018-07-08T14:13:55.886-04:00Not to eat up the comments, but I just wanted to a...Not to eat up the comments, but I just wanted to add this.<br /><br />While I defy anyone to name a more devout Objectivist, especially one following that path for so many decades, his real fundamentalism was towards comic books. He wasn't chairing the Ayn Rand Foundation; he used that ideological pathos as a tool for cultivating his creative outputs into the comics medium. He gave his life to comics, at the personal loss of depriving himself of a wife and kids and the rest of the nuclear family, American pipe-Dream. He was an absolute fundamentalist in that regard, only for a creative industry as opposed to a philosophy. And perhaps in that way was he most flawed, because by contributing to the medium's longevity, he enabled its continuation, thus inadvertently enabling those wielding ultimate power of that medium. His own essays were like band-aids on a cancer. They were extremely well-considered, but to really challenge/upset the status quo would be to kick in its kneecaps altogether.<br /><br />All of this is speculation though, with a probably wrongful amount of projection on my part. For all any of us know, he had a long-lived love affair with a sultry little thing, drinking it up together like Bukowski characters and producing out of wedlock bastard children by the bushel and the peck; maybe even proudly, quietly serving as the leading pot-dealer in his tenement building's block. Maybe he was posting on comic boards under pseudonyms all along, ripping the Big Two new dimensions of new arseholes. We don't know anything about him but his body of work. Behind closed doors he could've been the biggest turd our species has ever known, but his body of work was clearly something else. We can't praise what we don't know, but we can appreciate what we do.Richard Caldwellhttps://nilskidoo.blackblogs.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-37216241048976615812018-07-08T13:15:40.460-04:002018-07-08T13:15:40.460-04:00@Kid, I agree considerably. I actually just wrote ...@Kid, I agree considerably. I actually just wrote in a non-related essay how cults of personality only ever benefit the centerpieces, and that any hero-worship invariably leads down a one-way street prompting an eventual turnaround. In person I doubt Ditko and I could have gotten along much. My limited experience on the other side of the comic book fence got me reasonably blacklisted left and right, which I took in stride as being blacklisted from comix is like being denied a spot in a human centipede. Ditko may have thrown his hands up over certain other professionals, certain publishers, where I walked on the whole game, slamming the door behind me. He never gave up on the medium. I see brand loyalty as no different from religious zealotry. <br /><br />He was a kook, just not in the ways he's generally charged for. He wasn't a comic book rebel, but rather he believed in their power far more than Joe Q Creator ever seems to. I can love his stories to my own dying day though. My catalog of his stuff is generous enough so that I haven't felt the need to pay for another comic in well over a decade. If I were in his shoes, I wouldn't just snub new work from Marvel or DC, I'd sneak in at night to plant stink-bombs everywhere. But being a true artist, he was naturally gracious like that, for letting those who made his sacrifices all the more problematic get off easy.Richard Caldwellhttps://nilskidoo.blackblogs.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-10687524343895744562018-07-08T10:23:34.061-04:002018-07-08T10:23:34.061-04:00When a favourite comicbook artist dies, there are ...When a favourite comicbook artist dies, there are at least two camps which pitch their tents in the aftermath. Those who loved the best of the artist's work, but recognise that he/she was just a human being with faults and foibles the same as the rest of us, and those who consider even the worst of the artist's work from later years on par with the Sistine Chapel, and who deify the artist beyond what is reasonable or sensible.<br /><br />When Kirby died, Stan Lee was seen as the Anti-Christ (or should that be the Anti-Life?) to some people, and everything that Jack wrote or drew was regarded as being of equal merit, with some going so far as to suggest that his pencil art should never have been inked and his words left unedited - as if they were holy scripture that shouldn't be touched.<br /><br />I can see the same thing happening with Ditko. I'm sure he was a nice man, but he was, on occasion, perceived as being at least mildly eccentric and a bit 'kooky'. To recognise this is not the same thing as suggesting that he was a horrible, nasty, bad, seriously weird individual (not that anybody has ever suggested this as far as I know), who is unworthy of our admiration and respect.<br /><br />We all have favourite singers, and I'm sure that most of us would admit that not all of their songs are equally as good or even equally well-sung, but it does not detract in the slightest from our appreciation of them at their best. I just wish that more comicbook fans could have the same opinion in regard to their favourite artists, and not place them on unrealistically high pedestals on which even the object of their idolatry would feel uncomfortable.<br /><br />Steve Ditko was one of the greats and he shall remain so; however, not everything he drew in later years was of the same high standard as in his heyday and the evidence of that illustrates this very post. And even if we allow for the possibility that he was occasionally a little odd, then so what? It ain't a crime to be odd now and again as long as you're not hurting anybody.<br /><br />Rest in peace, Steve. Your work shall live on. Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-57865314625854298072018-07-08T08:46:18.568-04:002018-07-08T08:46:18.568-04:00Yours may well be my favorite of the many tributes...Yours may well be my favorite of the many tributes and obits I've read over the past week, Nick. I was the guy who wrote the Speedball essay in Ditkomania, sharing my preteen-era response from DeFalco over my then-concern over that character's whereabouts after cancellation. Ditko's work had a profound effect on me, the first artist I recognized, prompting me to actively follow his work. Some of the very first comix I ever read were the Captain Universe tales he did with Bill Mantlo way back, left to me by my dad. He was the only Objectivist I ever encountered in real life, so to better understand my dad, and my favorite comics guy, I stomached a lot of Rand's works, just to see where their heads were at; to understand where they were coming from. Which eventually prompted me to be a journo myself for some years, to better understand others as well. <br /><br />If I had to pick favorites, story-wise, I always loved the Safest Place one-shot Ditko accomplished for Dark Horse way back. Art-wise, there was an issue of Magnus: Robot Fighter where he was inked by Ralph Reese, which just always struck me as Raphaelian in shear beauty of the line work. <br /><br />I loved Ditko's work so much, everything with his name on it from the early romance stuff to his grey-washed supernatural stuff for Archie Goodwin to that freaking Chuck Norris comic of the 80s. He's too easily pigeon-holed by too many journalists in spite of cultivating one of the more diverse catalogs of any creator. I really feel that in a fairer world, he would be noted as the most important figure in the history of American comix.Richard Caldwellhttps://nilskidoo.blackblogs.org/face-true-front-believers/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2089733759263636022.post-80860143732992821402018-07-08T06:47:36.007-04:002018-07-08T06:47:36.007-04:00That said, thanks for those inspiring heartfelt wo...That said, thanks for those inspiring heartfelt words mr Caputo Emmanuel Péhaunoreply@blogger.com